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Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:57 am

We are very curious to see what the LattePanda will be employed for this time. There are so many suggested uses from connecting SSD’s to 4GLTE modules to the M.2 slots to even rigging it up for mining. Each idea gives us a chance to test out the device for that certain scenario and to ensure that we can help those users to maximize their project by providing quality support with drivers and specifications that are needed. Not only that, but accessories we design and engineer benefit from optimization with all user-scenarios in mind. For this reason, we are going to open a discussion here for you all to tell us what you have in mind for your LattePanda. We might try it out ourselves to see if it can be mass-implemented! This can literally be anything and we encourage the wildest ideas because those are our favorites! Stretch those specs, push the boundaries and let your imagination flow! ...and also let us know :)
Enjoy Tinkering with LattePanda ! :lol:

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makoi.monserrat
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Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:03 am

I'm planning to use latte panda alpha for machine learning and image recognition using openCV. By using a camera, these learning includes facial detection, and analyzing and recognizing what's being captured by the camera like a person in red shirt, a cat, kids running, etc. So speed is important for me because the it can deliver faster analysis and result. Much better as well if latte panda has an onboard camera slot similar to raspberry pi camera module so that project that requires camera can easily use this slot without compensating a lot of space and power. I have already a working project of this kind in raspberry pi 3 and knowing latte panda is more powerful hardware, I'm so excited what it would bring.

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Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:20 am

A lot of people have requested (including myself) a 16GB version of Lattepanda Alpha. In order to make the implementation easier, the use of SO-DIMM memory modules may help. They can be positioned on the underside of the board, so no problem with space. Additionally, SO-DIMM modules are relative inexpensive, at least for consumers and allow for greater flexibility. That is assuming that you sell a version with 16GB already, or simply sell Alphas with no memory, since buying the 8GB variant and then paying for a 16GB module, is rather expensive.

As far as the case goes, i would personally like to see a mount for a PCI slot. Using a extension you should be able to get a 4x PCIe slot working i believe, so if the case has on the back side of it a PCI slot it would allow to mount all sorts of boards. There is no need for the slot to be full height, a half height slot has been good enough for high end servers for years. That way you could even run the Alpha or the Delta as a router or a firewall.

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Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:36 am

I intend to build a portable/handheld gaming device similar to the Nintendo Switch, or alternatively a mini console. So I’m interested in how lithium batteries can be used with the Alpha, the release of a compatible touchscreen, and also the addition of game controller PCBs and joysticks.

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Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:01 pm

+1 for micro board who can powerup LattePanda with LiIon or LiPo batteries (maybe with BMS and protection). e.g. DC-DC Step-Up Boost Converter to 5V 4A or same. But very small
+1 for 4GLTE m.2 modem
+1 for 16GB model or model with so-dimm slot
+1 for m.2 to thunderbolt 3.0 (with support of eGPU)

Use ASM1142 chipset for making m.2 -> USB 3.1 adapter (need PCI-E Gen2x2 or Gen3x1).
This will allow to making USB 3.1 to GBE adapter by using RTL8153, and USB 3.1 to SATA adapter by using VIA Labs VL716.

Use TC358860XBG chipset for make eDP -> MIPI DSI converter with configuring from bios or arduino by i2c line.
Use TC358870XBG chipset for make HDMI -> MIPI DSI converter with configuring from bios or arduino by i2c line.

Also, you can make DP(eDP) 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 adapter by using EP963EQ or PS175 or PS176.

My project - is portable pc who can help on working place, on way and home.

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Nicolas
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:20 pm

Hello,
Thank you again to propose us a beautiful project.

I will use this board as a mobile computer, to make C# development with Visual Studio 2017+unity 3D...
Just Visual studio 2017 take over 40go on the primary disk, that's why a bootable board on the NVMe SSD is important for me.

1 - Can you confirm that we can install windows 10 on a SSD and activate the OS without troubles?


Moreover, because i use a professional computer, i will be not able to install any drivers (i don't have administrative right on this computer),

2 - so I would like to know if the streaming cable require the install of drivers on the computer ?


I read some comment where they talk about SO-DIMM memory. It could be a good idea to be able to change memory to upgrade, or to replace if a failure occur.

3 - Possibility to replace the M.2 E-KEY by a memory slot?


I see you are trying some module to convert M.2 M-Key to Thunderbolt 3.

4 - Keep us informed about this addon. I think next years will be rich in thunderbolt devices, especially eGPU.


About the titan case. If it is not yet designed, i would recommend :
- 2 M.2 slot with a card fit in the case (exemple : NVMe SSD on M.2 M-Key + another module on M.2 E-Key) to protect the assembly.
- A screen holder for the removable 7" size (or else). For exemple, with 4 screw at the corners of the board, or strong magnets, or a "clamshell" style...
I think that screw holes could be a good option for this board, because it could be used not only to mount a screen, but also to mount the board on something else.

I know some users will want to use this board for object and facial recognition. I don't know if there are different technology, but the intel RealSense is one which could be usefull. However, maybe the technology is expensive for the moment. Maybe for the next generation board?

Thank you for reading me :)

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Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:38 am

makoi.monserrat wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:03 am
I'm planning to use latte panda alpha for machine learning and image recognition using openCV. By using a camera, these learning includes facial detection, and analyzing and recognizing what's being captured by the camera like a person in red shirt, a cat, kids running, etc. So speed is important for me because the it can deliver faster analysis and result. Much better as well if latte panda has an onboard camera slot similar to raspberry pi camera module so that project that requires camera can easily use this slot without compensating a lot of space and power. I have already a working project of this kind in raspberry pi 3 and knowing latte panda is more powerful hardware, I'm so excited what it would bring.
Hi, Thanks for the feedback.
We are planning to add the camera slot , Still evaluating.
Did you plan to use the raspberry pi camera only? Any other choose? And how fast of the speed will you need?
Nice day! ;)
Enjoy Tinkering with LattePanda ! :lol:

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Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:58 am

Hi @all, many thanks for all ideas.
There are the answers ,hope to let you guys know. ;)

1). Yes, you can install windows 10 on a SSD and activate the OS without troubles.
2). Yes, the streaming cable require the install of drivers, and we will provide the driver.
3). For the 16G RAM, We are planning to release a 16G version in the future, and the M.2 contain the PCI-E ,so you can use both PCI-E and M.2.
4). You can use the PD power bank to power up the Board, and the LiIon or LiPo batteries are still evaluating.
5). The display and touchscreen will be integrated.
6). The 4GLTE M.2 MOD is still evaluating.
7). eGPU can be used via the PCI-E . We are trying some module to convert M.2 M-Key to Thunderbolt 3, Let's waiting.
8). Really a good idea to add M.2 slot to protect the assembly, we will discuss.
9). There will be a screen holder on the titan case, much more better than before, but the details info has not been confirmed. Working on it.

That's all, if have something missing or some answers are not your need, just post here. We will reply ASAP
Thanks again for the support.

Wish you all have a nice holiday. :P
Enjoy Tinkering with LattePanda ! :lol:

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Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:49 pm

LattePanda wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:58 am
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4). ..., and the LiIon or LiPo batteries are still evaluating.
(...)
Does that mean we get a controlled PowerDOWN with current from Lion-Accus if 12V supply is shut down ?
And the accus will automatic loaderd during supply is on ?
THIS would be the best news to me. :shock:

The truth is : We dont need the extra CPU power of Alpha or Delta. :o :o :o
But we need a cheap PC-System with cheap Touch-LCDs from 5'' to 10'' for mounting in our own enclosures
24V supply with accu backup for controlled windows shutdown (our customers are still preferring the good old heavy power SWITCH) and at least one RS485 interface.

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Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:01 am

Lutz wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:49 pm
Does that mean we get a controlled PowerDOWN with current from Lion-Accus if 12V supply is shut down ?
We are still evaluating, hope-hope can pass. :P
Lutz wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:49 pm
But we need a cheap PC-System with cheap Touch-LCDs from 5'' to 10'' for mounting in our own enclosures
We will have the 7'' screen. For other size, we will consider. Thanks for your suggestion.
Lutz wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:49 pm
at least one RS485 interface.
There is a RS232, can it works with you ? May I ask why would you need the RS485?
Any feedback will be appreciate. :P
Enjoy Tinkering with LattePanda ! :lol:

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